“First I want to thank whoever read my last post, and would like to thank whoever is taking the time in reading this. I also want to thank all of you who replied to my e-mail, but would suggest that you leave your comments on the post itself so we could actually engage in a debate. Try leaving polite comments when you do, respecting each other’s points of view.”
Ignorance: Lack of knowledge, education, or awareness.*
Tunnel vision: Extreme narrowness of viewpoint.*
Groupthink: A pattern of thought characterized by self-deception, forced manufacture of consent, and conformity to group values and ethics.*
*Please note that these definitions are taken from the Merriam-Webster online dictionary.
First I want to start by asking all of my readers (especially the educated ones) to try and read this with a level of open mindedness. And stop being victims of the propagandas that are launched at you by your leaders (Whether it’s a 14th of March propaganda or of an 8th of March propaganda, I am not excluding any party here).
Below you will find the List of questions I will be discussing in this post. If I didn’t answer all of the questions you e-mailed me please make sure to note that in the comments section, so that I will address it in my next post.
1. Why is the U.S supporting Lebanon?
2. Why is Syria interested in Lebanon?
3. Why will the U.S not give in to Syria’s demands?
4. Why a Lebanese civil war benefits Syria and not Israel?
5. Why is Iran a major player in this situation?
6. Why does Syria have a say in Iran’s decision?
7. What is the outcome of all of this chaos?
8. Where is March 8th (Especially Michel Aoun) going wrong?
9. Where is March 14th going wrong?
10. What should WE (The Lebanese youths) do?
1. Why is the U.S supporting Lebanon?
I must admit. This is quite hard to grasp at first. But it is true.
The U.S has proven to the world that it has done a bad job, but I mean BAD job in handling the Iraq war. Since then, it has been trying to prove that even though things might not always go as planned, it is going to support any form of democracy in the Middle East. Considering the close ties that Hariri had built throughout his years with the western world, the U.S saw itself backing up his government. But what’s important to note in this situation is that the U.S isn’t alone in this. The government is actually backed up by the all of the western powers. After the 2005 assassination of Hariri, somebody had to contain the situation before it went out of hand. Divisions in the country at that point were obvious, and if the situation wouldn’t have been contained properly, chaos would have reigned in the Middle East. Mass demonstrations took over the country demanding the pullout of the Syrians, and if it weren’t for U.S pressures, Syria would have never pulled out. Since then, the world’s hegemon has been supporting the Lebanese.
2. Why is Syria interested in Lebanon?
Well if you don’t already know the answer to this question you’re seriously impaired. But lucky you, I’m here to lay out the main reasons.
Throughout its occupation, Syria has dug its roots in the Lebanese economic and political apparatus.
Economic motive:
Workers – Over a million Syrian workers were present during the Syrian occupation (2003). These workers transfer a total of 3 Billion dollars in hard currency back to their families in Syria each year.
Water Supply – The most prominent example is the control of three quarters of the nahr el 3assi to irrigate Syrian agriculture.
Export – Syria’s dairy and agricultural products, its poultry and most importantly its cotton.
Illegal trade – Syria’s elite controls this turf. Illegal trade includes import of all luxury products with emphasis on stolen luxury cars, control over the electrical industry and the Casino du Liban.
Money Laundering – This territory is the most complex one since it is interconnected with the Lebanese Banking System. Syria’s elite deposits its money in Lebanese accounts and earn up to 30% interest a year.
Political motive:
Arabism – Syria would much rather have control over Lebanon, spreading its socialist ideologies than have a democratic Lebanon where people are mostly westernized.
Israeli confrontation – Syria faced painful consequences with Israel throughout history. Therefore instead of getting its hands dirty again, it would have someone do it for her instead.
Military – Military control over Lebanese territory insures a safety-net for any mishaps with the Israelis.
Foreign policy – Control over Lebanese foreign policy gives Syria power over any decisions taken in the region ranging from oil imports to talks with western powers.
3. Why will the U.S not give in to Syria’s demands?
Throughout history, it has been known that the U.S handed Lebanon in to the Syrians on a Silver plate. However the Syrian / U.S honeymoon never lasted long. Shortly after handing in Lebanon to the Syrians, Syria started usurping its power over Lebanese institutions. At that time, the U.S had its hands full dealing with the fist Iraqi invasion and trying to control its interests in the region. However throughout its occupation of Lebanon, the Syrians engaged in diplomatic relations through the Lebanese government with the U.S executing their orders to keep them at ease. However, Syria’s support for Hezbollah never pleased the U.S and basically led to today’s support for the current government. All reports issued by government agencies and the Iraq study group reject any return of Syrian occupation over Lebanon, for the simple reason that the U.S will not tolerate any support for Hezbollah. And want to get them unarmed as soon as possible.
4. Why a Lebanese Civil war benefits Syria and not Israel?
I agree with all of you who think that the July 2006 war was a total and complete failure for the Israelis. However what we don’t agree on is that if the Israelis really wanted to disarm Hezbollah they would have done so without hesitation. But what kept them from eradicating them is the following:
Media Coverage – This war received more attention throughout the world than any other war has ever received and this includes both Iraqi invasions.
Lebanese Government – The current government plaid the biggest war in stopping the aggressions. In fact, if it weren’t for the diplomatic ties that Hariri had built throughout his reigning years, Lebanon would have been brought back to the Stone Age. The government used its ties with Saudi Arabia to negotiate with the U.S over a quick cessation of Israeli hostilities.
Having said that, we now understand why the Israelis are facing trouble within their government since the objectives set were never achieved.
Moreover it is important to note that if a Lebanese civil war takes place, it is unquestionable that the sole winner would be Hezbollah. Thus completely undermining Israeli plans for the region. In face the sole beneficiary of a Lebanese civil war would be the Syrians, since the reason they entered the first time was a civil war, this would give them an easy way in. All they would have to do is promise the U.S that they will contain the situation and stop the chaos.
5. Why is Iran a major player is this situation?
After pursuing its nuclear program, the Iranian regime was completely isolated by all western powers. Its isolation cut its international aid. But what is important to note in the Iranian case is that its closest ally, North Korea, has agreed to stop its nuclear program in exchange of foreign aid. There is no doubt that Iran will actually follow its ally’s footsteps; however until then it is trying to use whatever influence it still has in the current situation to negotiate a better deal with western powers. Its influence includes the price of Hezbollah’s disarmament.
6. Why does Syria have a say in Iran’s decision?
Syrian and Iranian ties are closer than ever. Since both states are isolated by the rest of the western world, they will work together for each other’s best interest. The most important role that Syria plays when it come to Iranian negotiations is that it is Syria and not Iran that holds the key to Iraqi stability. And with the latest terrorist incursions that Iraq has been witnessing, Syria holds a good card in hand.
Another major point to note is that the Syrians are masters at work whenever it comes to organized crime. Therefore, by destabilizing the Lebanese scene it will hold 2 cards in hand instead of one. Negotiating a peaceful Iraq and a steady security in Lebanon, will raise Syria’s chances in returning to its goldmine.
7. What is the outcome of all this chaos?
The outcome of this really depends on how the U.S will handle the current situation. But with the various reports emerging and the obvious pacts and under the table deals happening, it is undeniable that the current government is staying in power. And it is irrefutable evidence that U.S interests lie parallel to Lebanese ones. Unfortunately this can change at any moment depending on how the internal Lebanese crisis will be dealt with.
8. Where is March 8th (Especially Michel Aoun) going wrong?
The first and most important wrong move made by the General was the pact signed with Hezbollah almost a year ago. This deepened the divisions within the Christians. The July war pointed out to the Lebanese how big of a mistake that pact was. In fact the kidnapping of the Israeli soldiers by Hezbollah broke 6 major points addressed in the pact which include but aren’t limited to the following:
· Transparency, openness, and placing the interests of the nation above any other interest, through the reliance on self-driven will, and a free and committed Lebanese decision-making.
· Limit the influence of political money and sectarian fanaticisms.
· Protecting Lebanon from Israeli threats through a national dialogue leading to the formulation of a national defense strategy over which the Lebanese agree to and subscribe to by assuming its burdens and benefiting from its outcomes.
Another important mistake that March 8th is doing is asking for illogical demands.
In fact, no democratic government in the world can be paralyzed because of the opposition’s held seats in it. In fact this defies the very purpose of a democracy.
The last and most relevant mistake to the current crisis is their position concerning the international tribunal. In fact if they were clear from the very beginning, it would have proven to the Lebanese that they have nothing to hide. However Hezbollah kept on postponing their response and got their ministers to resign from the government blaming it on its position towards the tribunal
9. Where is March 14th going wrong?
The most prominent mistake March 14th made is not foreseeing what Michel Aoun’s isolation might lead to. In fact, they should have given him whatever number of parliamentary seats he was asking for during the elections.
10. What should WE (the Lebanese youths) do?
The most important, and clever move one might do right now, is completely detaching himself from any political affiliation, and putting the country’s best interest at first.
Stop being victims of both propagandas and start putting your brain to work.
You are educated for a reason and that is not to blindly follow your leaders.
Put your curiosity to work, and try figuring out why Hezbollah has been shady about the international tribunal.
It’s called tunnel vision. And you are all victims of it.
Israel is not trying to poison the Lebanese by sending toxic balloons!
Hezbollah started being a terrorist organization and stopped being a resistance the moment they signed off on the kidnapping of Israeli soldiers.
Stop being ignorant and start engaging in constructive discussions and not destructive ones.
Try and understand each other’s concern and meet on middle ground.
Stop blaming each other for the billions of dollars in debt; they are not worth all that bloodshed.
ALL CURRENT LEADERS ARE CORRUPT INCLUDING MICHEL AOUN.
Ignorance: Lack of knowledge, education, or awareness.*
Tunnel vision: Extreme narrowness of viewpoint.*
Groupthink: A pattern of thought characterized by self-deception, forced manufacture of consent, and conformity to group values and ethics.*
*Please note that these definitions are taken from the Merriam-Webster online dictionary.
First I want to start by asking all of my readers (especially the educated ones) to try and read this with a level of open mindedness. And stop being victims of the propagandas that are launched at you by your leaders (Whether it’s a 14th of March propaganda or of an 8th of March propaganda, I am not excluding any party here).
Below you will find the List of questions I will be discussing in this post. If I didn’t answer all of the questions you e-mailed me please make sure to note that in the comments section, so that I will address it in my next post.
1. Why is the U.S supporting Lebanon?
2. Why is Syria interested in Lebanon?
3. Why will the U.S not give in to Syria’s demands?
4. Why a Lebanese civil war benefits Syria and not Israel?
5. Why is Iran a major player in this situation?
6. Why does Syria have a say in Iran’s decision?
7. What is the outcome of all of this chaos?
8. Where is March 8th (Especially Michel Aoun) going wrong?
9. Where is March 14th going wrong?
10. What should WE (The Lebanese youths) do?
1. Why is the U.S supporting Lebanon?
I must admit. This is quite hard to grasp at first. But it is true.
The U.S has proven to the world that it has done a bad job, but I mean BAD job in handling the Iraq war. Since then, it has been trying to prove that even though things might not always go as planned, it is going to support any form of democracy in the Middle East. Considering the close ties that Hariri had built throughout his years with the western world, the U.S saw itself backing up his government. But what’s important to note in this situation is that the U.S isn’t alone in this. The government is actually backed up by the all of the western powers. After the 2005 assassination of Hariri, somebody had to contain the situation before it went out of hand. Divisions in the country at that point were obvious, and if the situation wouldn’t have been contained properly, chaos would have reigned in the Middle East. Mass demonstrations took over the country demanding the pullout of the Syrians, and if it weren’t for U.S pressures, Syria would have never pulled out. Since then, the world’s hegemon has been supporting the Lebanese.
2. Why is Syria interested in Lebanon?
Well if you don’t already know the answer to this question you’re seriously impaired. But lucky you, I’m here to lay out the main reasons.
Throughout its occupation, Syria has dug its roots in the Lebanese economic and political apparatus.
Economic motive:
Workers – Over a million Syrian workers were present during the Syrian occupation (2003). These workers transfer a total of 3 Billion dollars in hard currency back to their families in Syria each year.
Water Supply – The most prominent example is the control of three quarters of the nahr el 3assi to irrigate Syrian agriculture.
Export – Syria’s dairy and agricultural products, its poultry and most importantly its cotton.
Illegal trade – Syria’s elite controls this turf. Illegal trade includes import of all luxury products with emphasis on stolen luxury cars, control over the electrical industry and the Casino du Liban.
Money Laundering – This territory is the most complex one since it is interconnected with the Lebanese Banking System. Syria’s elite deposits its money in Lebanese accounts and earn up to 30% interest a year.
Political motive:
Arabism – Syria would much rather have control over Lebanon, spreading its socialist ideologies than have a democratic Lebanon where people are mostly westernized.
Israeli confrontation – Syria faced painful consequences with Israel throughout history. Therefore instead of getting its hands dirty again, it would have someone do it for her instead.
Military – Military control over Lebanese territory insures a safety-net for any mishaps with the Israelis.
Foreign policy – Control over Lebanese foreign policy gives Syria power over any decisions taken in the region ranging from oil imports to talks with western powers.
3. Why will the U.S not give in to Syria’s demands?
Throughout history, it has been known that the U.S handed Lebanon in to the Syrians on a Silver plate. However the Syrian / U.S honeymoon never lasted long. Shortly after handing in Lebanon to the Syrians, Syria started usurping its power over Lebanese institutions. At that time, the U.S had its hands full dealing with the fist Iraqi invasion and trying to control its interests in the region. However throughout its occupation of Lebanon, the Syrians engaged in diplomatic relations through the Lebanese government with the U.S executing their orders to keep them at ease. However, Syria’s support for Hezbollah never pleased the U.S and basically led to today’s support for the current government. All reports issued by government agencies and the Iraq study group reject any return of Syrian occupation over Lebanon, for the simple reason that the U.S will not tolerate any support for Hezbollah. And want to get them unarmed as soon as possible.
4. Why a Lebanese Civil war benefits Syria and not Israel?
I agree with all of you who think that the July 2006 war was a total and complete failure for the Israelis. However what we don’t agree on is that if the Israelis really wanted to disarm Hezbollah they would have done so without hesitation. But what kept them from eradicating them is the following:
Media Coverage – This war received more attention throughout the world than any other war has ever received and this includes both Iraqi invasions.
Lebanese Government – The current government plaid the biggest war in stopping the aggressions. In fact, if it weren’t for the diplomatic ties that Hariri had built throughout his reigning years, Lebanon would have been brought back to the Stone Age. The government used its ties with Saudi Arabia to negotiate with the U.S over a quick cessation of Israeli hostilities.
Having said that, we now understand why the Israelis are facing trouble within their government since the objectives set were never achieved.
Moreover it is important to note that if a Lebanese civil war takes place, it is unquestionable that the sole winner would be Hezbollah. Thus completely undermining Israeli plans for the region. In face the sole beneficiary of a Lebanese civil war would be the Syrians, since the reason they entered the first time was a civil war, this would give them an easy way in. All they would have to do is promise the U.S that they will contain the situation and stop the chaos.
5. Why is Iran a major player is this situation?
After pursuing its nuclear program, the Iranian regime was completely isolated by all western powers. Its isolation cut its international aid. But what is important to note in the Iranian case is that its closest ally, North Korea, has agreed to stop its nuclear program in exchange of foreign aid. There is no doubt that Iran will actually follow its ally’s footsteps; however until then it is trying to use whatever influence it still has in the current situation to negotiate a better deal with western powers. Its influence includes the price of Hezbollah’s disarmament.
6. Why does Syria have a say in Iran’s decision?
Syrian and Iranian ties are closer than ever. Since both states are isolated by the rest of the western world, they will work together for each other’s best interest. The most important role that Syria plays when it come to Iranian negotiations is that it is Syria and not Iran that holds the key to Iraqi stability. And with the latest terrorist incursions that Iraq has been witnessing, Syria holds a good card in hand.
Another major point to note is that the Syrians are masters at work whenever it comes to organized crime. Therefore, by destabilizing the Lebanese scene it will hold 2 cards in hand instead of one. Negotiating a peaceful Iraq and a steady security in Lebanon, will raise Syria’s chances in returning to its goldmine.
7. What is the outcome of all this chaos?
The outcome of this really depends on how the U.S will handle the current situation. But with the various reports emerging and the obvious pacts and under the table deals happening, it is undeniable that the current government is staying in power. And it is irrefutable evidence that U.S interests lie parallel to Lebanese ones. Unfortunately this can change at any moment depending on how the internal Lebanese crisis will be dealt with.
8. Where is March 8th (Especially Michel Aoun) going wrong?
The first and most important wrong move made by the General was the pact signed with Hezbollah almost a year ago. This deepened the divisions within the Christians. The July war pointed out to the Lebanese how big of a mistake that pact was. In fact the kidnapping of the Israeli soldiers by Hezbollah broke 6 major points addressed in the pact which include but aren’t limited to the following:
· Transparency, openness, and placing the interests of the nation above any other interest, through the reliance on self-driven will, and a free and committed Lebanese decision-making.
· Limit the influence of political money and sectarian fanaticisms.
· Protecting Lebanon from Israeli threats through a national dialogue leading to the formulation of a national defense strategy over which the Lebanese agree to and subscribe to by assuming its burdens and benefiting from its outcomes.
Another important mistake that March 8th is doing is asking for illogical demands.
In fact, no democratic government in the world can be paralyzed because of the opposition’s held seats in it. In fact this defies the very purpose of a democracy.
The last and most relevant mistake to the current crisis is their position concerning the international tribunal. In fact if they were clear from the very beginning, it would have proven to the Lebanese that they have nothing to hide. However Hezbollah kept on postponing their response and got their ministers to resign from the government blaming it on its position towards the tribunal
9. Where is March 14th going wrong?
The most prominent mistake March 14th made is not foreseeing what Michel Aoun’s isolation might lead to. In fact, they should have given him whatever number of parliamentary seats he was asking for during the elections.
10. What should WE (the Lebanese youths) do?
The most important, and clever move one might do right now, is completely detaching himself from any political affiliation, and putting the country’s best interest at first.
Stop being victims of both propagandas and start putting your brain to work.
You are educated for a reason and that is not to blindly follow your leaders.
Put your curiosity to work, and try figuring out why Hezbollah has been shady about the international tribunal.
It’s called tunnel vision. And you are all victims of it.
Israel is not trying to poison the Lebanese by sending toxic balloons!
Hezbollah started being a terrorist organization and stopped being a resistance the moment they signed off on the kidnapping of Israeli soldiers.
Stop being ignorant and start engaging in constructive discussions and not destructive ones.
Try and understand each other’s concern and meet on middle ground.
Stop blaming each other for the billions of dollars in debt; they are not worth all that bloodshed.
ALL CURRENT LEADERS ARE CORRUPT INCLUDING MICHEL AOUN.
14 comments:
A thoughtful post.
Though doesn't the conclusion to your 7th point necessarily reduce the importance of the United States that you note at the begining of point 7? If the US is largely reactive in this conflict (and there's a lot of evidence to suggest that it is), aren't events in Lebanon going to largely shape how the US chooses to act?
Ramzi,
The U.S has proven to the world that it has done a bad job in handling the Iraq war. Fine. Allow me to reformulate this into "The U.S IS STILL PROVING to the world that it IS DOING a bad job in handling the Iraq war". Right? So the U.S is very much concerned about the world's opinion to the extent that when the whole world was against the Israeli war on Lebanon, the U.S used its veto to keep it going and even supplied Israel with weapons… Not to mention the same thing that happened with the wars on Afghanistan and on Iraq…
My dearest Ramzi, SUPPORTING DEMOCRACY doesn't necessarily require stopping all aids to the Palestinians because they legitimately elected a majority of Hamass leaders, and it surely doesn't recommend that when Palestinians have an agreement (last week in Saudi Arabia) to stop the fighting between each other and create a new unified government, it surely doesn’t recommend that the U.S directly say that if such a thing happens the embargo will be resumed on Palestine! (So believe me when I tell you the U.S wants us to kill each other in order to be weak instead of focusing on Israel). SUPPORTING DEMOCRACY doesn’t really need the prevention from changing the Syrian-Lebanese "Ghazi Kanaan law" of elections especially when they knew that this law was MADE to keep Christians away from being fairly represented… Supporting DEMOCRACY doesn't necessarily go hand in hand with giving Sunnah (and precisely ONLY ONE SUNNAH FAMILY) ultimate power of decision over a multi-ethnic country especially if all Sunnah represent less than 30% of the Lebanese community.
"The United States is supporting democracy"… read this sentence well, sit back and think: Why the hell would the U.S even think about democracy? Because things went wrong in Iraq? Do you really believe that the United States Government didn't know what it was going to go through in Iraq??? I don't think you do believe that but if you do, then seriously, you're not half as smart as I imagined…
There are no gifts in politics and you know that… Even towards Israel, the U.S is taking care of Israel for well known reasons… but the reasons I'm totally not convinced of are those for supporting Lebanon. Bad conscience about Iraq? Allow me to laugh…
On the other hand, I totally agree with what you said about Syria and the U.S in sections 2 and 3 and never in my whole life have I said the opposite. But between parentheses, Seniora's corrupt government is not doing ANYTHING to solve Syrian worker's problem… It's not doing anything at all actually… (I can give you more information about that later if you want)
As for section 4, please enlight me:
1- Do you believe Israel didn't know about the media coverage the war will take, especially when there were 200,000 tourists trapped in Lebanon for a week? Governments are not dumb Ramzi… You always tend to underestimate governments and study their moves as if they were normal individuals… You're free to think the way you want, but I believe this is an important thing to avoid in political analysis because it leads to huge mistakes. When you read history, try to notice how intelligent governments usually were… There is no such thing as "Israel didn't know", it just didn't give a damn… and suppose the coverage was larger than expected, why did it perpetrate 9 massacres during the war?
2- Are you certain that Seniora stopped the war and not the 160 dead Israeli soldiers, 200,000 relocated people and 450 wounded from which 85 died after the end of the war? Seriously…
By the way Ramzi what you call "the stone age", well Lebanon was not far from it before the war began so there was not much to lose…
I will stop here for today since I have to go for the news bulletin, I will proceed with section 5 of your text tomorrow and give you my opinion about it.
Keep up the good work.
Take care
Tony, or should i call you Ali? i would suggest keeping politics to people who actually know how to argue and stay polite in their replies. And if someone is underestimating the power of governments it is not eRamzi but you my friend. Israel is prepared to lose a million soldiers to cripple hezbollah and whoever backs it including iran. if it wasnt for the saudi oil threat, like eRamzi hints, your beloved country would have been brought back 10000 years.
eRamzi, very interesting post. However i would like to point out to you, that the iranians and syrians will not give in to US demands for a Cheap price this time.
Hopefully Lebanon will make it through, and democracy will prevail.
Tony,
first israel lost only 116 soldiers and 50 cevilians....I don't know where have you got this numbers...but anyway..
116 soldiers from the israeli is only 0.000001% from the the I.D.F. just to give you the proportion, in 67, the greatest israel war in all the times, they lost 600 soldiers,and in the first Lebanon war they lost 1000 soldiers, still they came until Beirut.
the reason that israel stop its attcak was the criticism of the public and the media on the Prime minister, and about the defence minister.
israel can't win Hezbolla, the U.S army can't do it also, no one can do it.
it is like Vietnam, Afganistan and Iraq, the history proved us that gurilla war can't be defeated...because of this reason the israeli media, the novelists and the thinkers push the govermant to stop the attack.
israel could continue until 2007 with this war, but insted of 2000 casualties it would be more like 20,000...and Hezbolla would still exist.
but the sad story is that it isn't over...israel won't agree about the lost of deterrence in the eyes of the arabs, like you...so it will do another war, probably next summer, this time much more harder and bigger...
Alon,
You know how the Israeli government tried to hide the reality of the war, and how it prevented journalists from entering Northern Israel for 2 months. The numbers I gave you are the real ones revealed on channel 2 of Israel 2 weeks after the war and we (Lebanese Broadcasting Corporation) broadcasted it on September 3rd, 2006 in our 8:00pm news bulletin.
I totally agree with (and highly respect) the rest of your comment. However, I would like to point out to you that criticism of the public was one of the reasons that lead to the end of the war and not "the" [only] reason.
Thank you.
Now tell me tony, how much casualties hezbolla has?
I don't know, and you don't know also, hezbolla said something like 250, I.D.F said 800-600...you tell me who is biased...
I have a lot of respect to the israeli media, and the I.D.F for the fact they published the whole israeli casualties in the war, their names and the places they live...can you tell me the same about the Lebaneses media, about Al-Manar? only two weeks ago they feed us with the balloons story which become a totally lie...
"the Israeli government tried to hide the reality of the war" they meybe tried but without any success...look at ha'aretz in the days of the war coverages, you can see there all of the facts that now after the events we know...
I agree, this was one of the reasons to stop the war, I don't think the only reason, but the major reason...
P.S.
"and how it prevented journalists from entering Northern Israel for 2 months"
this isn't true also...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xVLmYQ6lOg
look at this video, it is some israeli reporter who enter with group of soldiers into Lebanon.
it is three parts with English sub-titles, it is very intresting video, not only to israelis or Lebaneses...(you can see the other parts in the left of the video)
and here is another link of american reporter who spend most of the war in the north. look at July and August.
http://www.michaeltotten.com/archives/2006_08.html
Tony,
all i am going to say is get your fact straight. don't assume that if you work where you do puts you in a position where you can state facts and be sure of them. Unfortunately everything you say is completely and utterly wrong. And just proves to me that you are a perfect example of the victims of the propaganda i am talking about.
Alon,
i am impressed that someone has actually done some research before posting comments. However i am pretty sure that is is Highly unlikely to see Israel launch a new was on Lebanon this summer. They are facing major shakeups in their government that they are unlikely to get into a war in the near future. However if they do, make no mistake about it, it'll be the last thing Lebanon will ever see.
Ramzi in your opinion everything I say is completely wrong, and in mine, everything YOU say is completely wrong and governed by hatered towards Hezbollah...
So this is not getting anywhere...
However, there is only one thing I would like you to explain if you don't mind:
We have here in Lebanon such an indestructible suicidal terrorist force called Hezbollah (Alon agrees with me), now logically how would you "get rid" of it?
Let's get this straight Ramzi: Hezbollah is no more of a problem for you than it is for me. But the difference between you and I is that I'm for the political solution whereas you're for the military solution, and the latter will be "the last thing Lebanon will ever see" if it happens, meaning if we Lebanese Christians try to get rid of Hezbollah by force.
So please, if you have another solution, try to tell me about it instead of telling me that Aoun did wrong by signing the pact with Hezbollah because it deepened the divisions within Christians... Didn't it strenghten relations between Muslims and Christians? And for the fact, remember that Geagea was Hezbollah's ally before Aoun in the elections!!!
eRamzi,
Actually I think that only because the failures of israel in the last war, they will start a new one...
you can see it every where, they
replace the Chief Of Staff, the Generals, the Defence Minister probably in may, even today they replaced the Inspector General-Karadi...
the reserves trained now 3 times per year contrary to the last years which they trained 1 time...
and you can see the Generals call for preparing the army to the next round...
this time it will be U.S in Iran, and israel in Lebanon...
but I think that the army learned its lessons this time, and it won't bombed Beirut or cevilians infrastructures, in the Vinogrant commission of inquiry they asked the Prime Minister Olmert, why did he let the I.D.F this order to bomb Dehia and the Lebanese army? and he said that they did it because they want an inside pressure on hezbolla, it was the major mistake of the war...
if israel will make another war this summer...do you think the Lebaneses will fight against Hezbolla or you will sit like you did last summer? becasue in the world a lot of people expected that you would react..
Again, I totally agree with you Alon. I'm really impressed. Keep up the good work.
i would reply over here but couple of the comments sent to me by email want my opinion on Hezbollah. So i'll be discussing it in my next post. Just give me a little time. Have a bio exam tuesday, a poli-sci exam thursday, and another bio exam next tuesday. so im gonna do my best to find some time to write my next post.
Thanks for the comments. And even though our opinions my be different; this is the only way thta we can find a common ground between us citizens.
Stay safe.
Tony presented good argumentation and answered most of your comments Ramzi. Why arent you giving him a clear and straight answer other than "you are completely wrong..."?
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